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	<title>Comments on: John Edwards Campaign Falls Down On My Playground</title>
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		<title>By: Doug Haslam &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Are the candidates using MySpace and other social media well?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug Haslam &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Are the candidates using MySpace and other social media well?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 01:41:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] II: See this exchange between C.C. Chapman and the Edwards campaign. a combination of social media outreach initiative [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Doug Haslam &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Podcast! PRobecast #18</title>
		<link>http://www.managingthegray.com/2007/05/31/john-edwards-campaign-falls-down-on-my-playground/comment-page-1/#comment-52402</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug Haslam &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Podcast! PRobecast #18</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 02:51:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Social Media Part I: John Edwards campaign makes good after missteps in Twitter [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Morning Thoughts</title>
		<link>http://www.managingthegray.com/2007/05/31/john-edwards-campaign-falls-down-on-my-playground/comment-page-1/#comment-11200</link>
		<dc:creator>Morning Thoughts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jun 2007 13:20:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] for something and then the conversation grows out of that. I&#8217;m referring to things such as my post about the Edwards campaign and Chris Penn&#8217;s post about PodShow. Both have sparked some interesting conversation. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] for something and then the conversation grows out of that. I&#8217;m referring to things such as my post about the Edwards campaign and Chris Penn&#8217;s post about PodShow. Both have sparked some interesting conversation. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Podcast! PRobecast #18 &#171; Gischeleman&#8217;s Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.managingthegray.com/2007/05/31/john-edwards-campaign-falls-down-on-my-playground/comment-page-1/#comment-11172</link>
		<dc:creator>Podcast! PRobecast #18 &#171; Gischeleman&#8217;s Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jun 2007 02:27:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Social Media Part I: John Edwards campaign makes good after missteps in Twitter [...]</description>
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		<title>By: KEIS</title>
		<link>http://www.managingthegray.com/2007/05/31/john-edwards-campaign-falls-down-on-my-playground/comment-page-1/#comment-11152</link>
		<dc:creator>KEIS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2007 21:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I first read this post, I was a little dismayed...


I have so far been a yellow dog democrat on election day, no matter how uninsipring I find the dog to be.  Now that Edwards is investing his energies in new media I fear that it looks like he did not learn from the John Kerry flop.  &quot;Check my website&quot; is not a campaign platform in both of the &quot;Two Americas.&quot;  One of those two Americas lacks computer literacy, computers, and internet connections.  A cell phone is not an adequate platform to consume new media either.  The impoverished class in America has grown during the Bush administration--the bigger of the Two Americas is the one to reach out to in a democratic election.  As Aristotle wrote, a democracy is a tyranny of the majority.


Yes, new media is another way to spread the word.  That is not enough.  New media is not going to lure both Americas into voting booths and it will not motivate both Americas to choose you.  Instead it excludes half of the &quot;Two Americas&quot; from a process that should be open to all.  I sincerely hope that Edwards and the other democrats realize the importance of old media in the 2008 campaign. Otherwise, they will need Micah to stuff the ballot box if they plan to win.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I first read this post, I was a little dismayed&#8230;</p>
<p>I have so far been a yellow dog democrat on election day, no matter how uninsipring I find the dog to be.  Now that Edwards is investing his energies in new media I fear that it looks like he did not learn from the John Kerry flop.  &#8220;Check my website&#8221; is not a campaign platform in both of the &#8220;Two Americas.&#8221;  One of those two Americas lacks computer literacy, computers, and internet connections.  A cell phone is not an adequate platform to consume new media either.  The impoverished class in America has grown during the Bush administration&#8211;the bigger of the Two Americas is the one to reach out to in a democratic election.  As Aristotle wrote, a democracy is a tyranny of the majority.</p>
<p>Yes, new media is another way to spread the word.  That is not enough.  New media is not going to lure both Americas into voting booths and it will not motivate both Americas to choose you.  Instead it excludes half of the &#8220;Two Americas&#8221; from a process that should be open to all.  I sincerely hope that Edwards and the other democrats realize the importance of old media in the 2008 campaign. Otherwise, they will need Micah to stuff the ballot box if they plan to win.</p>
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		<title>By: Gautam</title>
		<link>http://www.managingthegray.com/2007/05/31/john-edwards-campaign-falls-down-on-my-playground/comment-page-1/#comment-11135</link>
		<dc:creator>Gautam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2007 18:27:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I m big fan of JRE

hey thanks for your exclusive post</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I m big fan of JRE</p>
<p>hey thanks for your exclusive post</p>
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		<title>By: Balaji Sowmyanarayanan</title>
		<link>http://www.managingthegray.com/2007/05/31/john-edwards-campaign-falls-down-on-my-playground/comment-page-1/#comment-11120</link>
		<dc:creator>Balaji Sowmyanarayanan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2007 13:10:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m amazed by the speed!
I&#039;m afraid that bloggers will get bad reputation as lawyers if most people are not able to cope up with the new media.
&#039;Bullying at the (new media)playground by (enthusiastic) bloggers keeps innocent( kids) away!&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m amazed by the speed!<br />
I&#8217;m afraid that bloggers will get bad reputation as lawyers if most people are not able to cope up with the new media.<br />
&#8216;Bullying at the (new media)playground by (enthusiastic) bloggers keeps innocent( kids) away!&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: wow</title>
		<link>http://www.managingthegray.com/2007/05/31/john-edwards-campaign-falls-down-on-my-playground/comment-page-1/#comment-11092</link>
		<dc:creator>wow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2007 06:12:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love how you both damn the campaign with faint praise, while offering your own vanity up as an example of being on the bleeding edge.  Maybe you should offer a politician without the resources of, say, Coke, a little more slack before going public.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love how you both damn the campaign with faint praise, while offering your own vanity up as an example of being on the bleeding edge.  Maybe you should offer a politician without the resources of, say, Coke, a little more slack before going public.</p>
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		<title>By: wow</title>
		<link>http://www.managingthegray.com/2007/05/31/john-edwards-campaign-falls-down-on-my-playground/comment-page-1/#comment-11091</link>
		<dc:creator>wow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2007 06:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love the vanity in this post, and how it ends by saying you don&#039;t want to lift the curtain on back door campaign issues.  You have already proven yourself worthy through your discretion, while damning with faint praise!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the vanity in this post, and how it ends by saying you don&#8217;t want to lift the curtain on back door campaign issues.  You have already proven yourself worthy through your discretion, while damning with faint praise!</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Roberts</title>
		<link>http://www.managingthegray.com/2007/05/31/john-edwards-campaign-falls-down-on-my-playground/comment-page-1/#comment-11086</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Roberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2007 04:11:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very happy to see the Edwards campaign reach out.  The most concerning first thought about the MySpace blanket message was that we have grown to almost have a sixth-sense about spam and advertising.  But as you said CC... it&#039;s all a part of learning to play in the playground.  One of the first things you learn as a kid when you are at the playground is that it&#039;s much more fun and a better experience when you play WITH others around you.  Community is what drives new media, and it&#039;s these relationships that can be the most benificial to everyone. Community takes time and effort to create, and true community usually lies in smaller cicles than tradional blast-out advertising.  BUT these small circles become your biggest sounding boards and airhorns when the call comes.  That is the true power of new media.

Best of luck to you and your crew Amy.  I&#039;m anxious to hear more from the campaign.  CC had a call to have one of the candidates appear on Managing the Gray to explain how they are leveraging new media.  I&#039;d love to hear more about the efforts the Edwards campaign is undertaking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very happy to see the Edwards campaign reach out.  The most concerning first thought about the MySpace blanket message was that we have grown to almost have a sixth-sense about spam and advertising.  But as you said CC&#8230; it&#8217;s all a part of learning to play in the playground.  One of the first things you learn as a kid when you are at the playground is that it&#8217;s much more fun and a better experience when you play WITH others around you.  Community is what drives new media, and it&#8217;s these relationships that can be the most benificial to everyone. Community takes time and effort to create, and true community usually lies in smaller cicles than tradional blast-out advertising.  BUT these small circles become your biggest sounding boards and airhorns when the call comes.  That is the true power of new media.</p>
<p>Best of luck to you and your crew Amy.  I&#8217;m anxious to hear more from the campaign.  CC had a call to have one of the candidates appear on Managing the Gray to explain how they are leveraging new media.  I&#8217;d love to hear more about the efforts the Edwards campaign is undertaking.</p>
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		<title>By: Cathryn Hrudicka</title>
		<link>http://www.managingthegray.com/2007/05/31/john-edwards-campaign-falls-down-on-my-playground/comment-page-1/#comment-11065</link>
		<dc:creator>Cathryn Hrudicka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 20:13:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi CC,

It&#039;s good that you brought these issues out and engaged the Edwards campaign in conversation. These issues, by the way, are not that different than approaching a more traditional media person and knowing who they are in advance, customizing your individual approach to their background and interests. (I write more about that in my PR and Marketing Mentor blog: http://CathrynHrudicka.wordpress.com). 

I also applaud the Edwards campaign for responding so quickly. The &quot;kid&quot; who talked with you initially was probably an intern or someone who had the task of fielding contacts in a fast-moving campaign of overworked staff people—but they still need to watch the impressions they&#039;re making, especially in the social media space, where word travels like lightning, which is why it&#039;s great that they&#039;re there in the first place. Thanks for opening up the discussion on political campaigns and social media. 

~Cathryn Hrudicka, Chief Imagination Officer (and PR consultant/journalist)
Creative Sage(tm)/Cathryn Hrudicka &amp; Associates</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi CC,</p>
<p>It&#8217;s good that you brought these issues out and engaged the Edwards campaign in conversation. These issues, by the way, are not that different than approaching a more traditional media person and knowing who they are in advance, customizing your individual approach to their background and interests. (I write more about that in my PR and Marketing Mentor blog: <a href="http://CathrynHrudicka.wordpress.com)" rel="nofollow">http://CathrynHrudicka.wordpress.com)</a>. </p>
<p>I also applaud the Edwards campaign for responding so quickly. The &#8220;kid&#8221; who talked with you initially was probably an intern or someone who had the task of fielding contacts in a fast-moving campaign of overworked staff people—but they still need to watch the impressions they&#8217;re making, especially in the social media space, where word travels like lightning, which is why it&#8217;s great that they&#8217;re there in the first place. Thanks for opening up the discussion on political campaigns and social media. </p>
<p>~Cathryn Hrudicka, Chief Imagination Officer (and PR consultant/journalist)<br />
Creative Sage(tm)/Cathryn Hrudicka &amp; Associates</p>
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		<title>By: Neil Ford</title>
		<link>http://www.managingthegray.com/2007/05/31/john-edwards-campaign-falls-down-on-my-playground/comment-page-1/#comment-11064</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil Ford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 20:06:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whilst it&#039;s great to see someone from the Edwards campaign respond, it&#039;s obvious they don&#039;t listen to Managing the Gray :)

Of course in the UK I don&#039;t expect any political party to &#039;get it&#039; anytime soon.

- Neil.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whilst it&#8217;s great to see someone from the Edwards campaign respond, it&#8217;s obvious they don&#8217;t listen to Managing the Gray <img src='http://www.managingthegray.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Of course in the UK I don&#8217;t expect any political party to &#8216;get it&#8217; anytime soon.</p>
<p>- Neil.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert P.</title>
		<link>http://www.managingthegray.com/2007/05/31/john-edwards-campaign-falls-down-on-my-playground/comment-page-1/#comment-11063</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert P.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 19:41:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And, sometimes it works the other way around.  I&#039;m a fan of JRE that found your blog through my Google Reader, so you can chalk up one more follower because of this &quot;mistake&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And, sometimes it works the other way around.  I&#8217;m a fan of JRE that found your blog through my Google Reader, so you can chalk up one more follower because of this &#8220;mistake&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: rikomatic</title>
		<link>http://www.managingthegray.com/2007/05/31/john-edwards-campaign-falls-down-on-my-playground/comment-page-1/#comment-11057</link>
		<dc:creator>rikomatic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 19:01:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, that was impressive turnaround time, I have to say. Kudos for realizing the error and instituting corrective measures.

CC is the consummate connector and influencer in this space. Only a foolish campaigner would ignore his advice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, that was impressive turnaround time, I have to say. Kudos for realizing the error and instituting corrective measures.</p>
<p>CC is the consummate connector and influencer in this space. Only a foolish campaigner would ignore his advice.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Monty</title>
		<link>http://www.managingthegray.com/2007/05/31/john-edwards-campaign-falls-down-on-my-playground/comment-page-1/#comment-11056</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Monty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 18:30:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Careful there, C.C. - the &quot;other side&quot; has feelings too.  Even if they aren&#039;t using new media quite so effectively.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Careful there, C.C. &#8211; the &#8220;other side&#8221; has feelings too.  Even if they aren&#8217;t using new media quite so effectively.</p>
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		<title>By: Are the candidates using MySpace and other social media well? &#171; Gischeleman&#8217;s Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.managingthegray.com/2007/05/31/john-edwards-campaign-falls-down-on-my-playground/comment-page-1/#comment-11054</link>
		<dc:creator>Are the candidates using MySpace and other social media well? &#171; Gischeleman&#8217;s Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 18:06:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] II: See this exchange between C.C. Chapman and the Edwards campaign. a combination of social media outreach initiative [...]</description>
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		<title>By: C.C. Chapman</title>
		<link>http://www.managingthegray.com/2007/05/31/john-edwards-campaign-falls-down-on-my-playground/comment-page-1/#comment-11051</link>
		<dc:creator>C.C. Chapman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 17:05:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amy, thank you so much for coming out and being transparent and joining in on the conversation. Looks like the campaign picked the right person to bring on board.

I&#039;m also very glad to see that you understood that this was aimed at being constructive criticism and nothing more. I want to see you succeed in leveraging this space and look forward to talking more about how that can be done.

Plus I&#039;d rather point out the problems now before someone on the &quot;other side&quot; *grin* is accidentally called. Somehow I don&#039;t think their response would be as constructive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amy, thank you so much for coming out and being transparent and joining in on the conversation. Looks like the campaign picked the right person to bring on board.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m also very glad to see that you understood that this was aimed at being constructive criticism and nothing more. I want to see you succeed in leveraging this space and look forward to talking more about how that can be done.</p>
<p>Plus I&#8217;d rather point out the problems now before someone on the &#8220;other side&#8221; *grin* is accidentally called. Somehow I don&#8217;t think their response would be as constructive.</p>
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		<title>By: Amy Rubin</title>
		<link>http://www.managingthegray.com/2007/05/31/john-edwards-campaign-falls-down-on-my-playground/comment-page-1/#comment-11050</link>
		<dc:creator>Amy Rubin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 16:51:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CC, thanks for your kind nudge in the right direction and willingness to leave us some room for improvement. For those of you I have yet to meet, my name is Amy Rubin and I recently joined the Edwards campaign to head up our SocNets strategy. 

I wanted to take a moment to respond to this post and ensure you all that we are working hard to fully integrate new media into our overall campaign strategy. 

As CC mentioned we are reaching out to our online influencers and working to provide them with the resources and support they need to talk with their communities as effectively as possible. While, as Christopher mentioned, it is often difficult to identify our online leaders and measure engagement we did strategically reach out to people for this program and did not simply blast all of our friends. Clearly, there is a huge difference between super-users of new media and everyday supporters who are enthusiastic and use these new tools.  Do we need to do a better job of differentiating between them? Of course. This is a new effort and we’re always finding ways to hone our approach. 

I also wanted to clarify, which CC also touched upon, we are not planning to simply say “hey, spread the message!” and then peace out. This is the first step in organizing our team. As we move forward, we’ll be learning too – and finding out from the team what they need and want from us to do what they are, in many cases, already doing – which is engaging with other people about the campaign.  

 
Thanks for this nudge.  We are definitely listening and this was some of the best feedback I’ve received since we launched this program three days ago. As Daniel hinted at, I would love to hear from anyone interested sharing ideas, criticisms or suggestions on how we can make the most of this great new world. 

 
Feel free to email me at arubin at johnedwards dot com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CC, thanks for your kind nudge in the right direction and willingness to leave us some room for improvement. For those of you I have yet to meet, my name is Amy Rubin and I recently joined the Edwards campaign to head up our SocNets strategy. </p>
<p>I wanted to take a moment to respond to this post and ensure you all that we are working hard to fully integrate new media into our overall campaign strategy. </p>
<p>As CC mentioned we are reaching out to our online influencers and working to provide them with the resources and support they need to talk with their communities as effectively as possible. While, as Christopher mentioned, it is often difficult to identify our online leaders and measure engagement we did strategically reach out to people for this program and did not simply blast all of our friends. Clearly, there is a huge difference between super-users of new media and everyday supporters who are enthusiastic and use these new tools.  Do we need to do a better job of differentiating between them? Of course. This is a new effort and we’re always finding ways to hone our approach. </p>
<p>I also wanted to clarify, which CC also touched upon, we are not planning to simply say “hey, spread the message!” and then peace out. This is the first step in organizing our team. As we move forward, we’ll be learning too – and finding out from the team what they need and want from us to do what they are, in many cases, already doing – which is engaging with other people about the campaign.  </p>
<p>Thanks for this nudge.  We are definitely listening and this was some of the best feedback I’ve received since we launched this program three days ago. As Daniel hinted at, I would love to hear from anyone interested sharing ideas, criticisms or suggestions on how we can make the most of this great new world. </p>
<p>Feel free to email me at arubin at johnedwards dot com</p>
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		<title>By: C.C. Chapman</title>
		<link>http://www.managingthegray.com/2007/05/31/john-edwards-campaign-falls-down-on-my-playground/comment-page-1/#comment-11048</link>
		<dc:creator>C.C. Chapman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 16:25:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well the main reason I wrote the post is that I&#039;m HOPING that they go &quot;well what could we do better next time&quot; and of course I&#039;ll gladly tell them.

We are ALL learning this stuff as we go along. No one is an expert because it changes to fast. Plus, I&#039;ve been a firm believer in giving help to anyone that asks and those that know me know that I&#039;ll give advice to anyone that asks for it.

I don&#039;t care what color your politics are, it&#039;s great to see them using new media and I hope they take it to the next step to learn to use it even better. I have faith they will.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well the main reason I wrote the post is that I&#8217;m HOPING that they go &#8220;well what could we do better next time&#8221; and of course I&#8217;ll gladly tell them.</p>
<p>We are ALL learning this stuff as we go along. No one is an expert because it changes to fast. Plus, I&#8217;ve been a firm believer in giving help to anyone that asks and those that know me know that I&#8217;ll give advice to anyone that asks for it.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t care what color your politics are, it&#8217;s great to see them using new media and I hope they take it to the next step to learn to use it even better. I have faith they will.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Ploof</title>
		<link>http://www.managingthegray.com/2007/05/31/john-edwards-campaign-falls-down-on-my-playground/comment-page-1/#comment-11045</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Ploof</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 16:08:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The thing that hit me about this story is that social media has an &quot;emotional multiplier affect&quot; to it.  If you had gotten a call out of the blue from an Edwards telemarketer, you would have listened dispassionately or just hung up, because it is assumed that there is a personal connection with the caller.   But in this case, you were contacted on twitter, which comes with a bunch of assumptions: that they follow your posts, that they know a little bit about you -- all of which conspire to heighten your expectations.  So then, when the college kid started reading from his &quot;how much content can you push to your friends&quot; page, you were left disappointed and perhaps a little bit angry for being duped.

It&#039;s like playing with matches on the playground:-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The thing that hit me about this story is that social media has an &#8220;emotional multiplier affect&#8221; to it.  If you had gotten a call out of the blue from an Edwards telemarketer, you would have listened dispassionately or just hung up, because it is assumed that there is a personal connection with the caller.   But in this case, you were contacted on twitter, which comes with a bunch of assumptions: that they follow your posts, that they know a little bit about you &#8212; all of which conspire to heighten your expectations.  So then, when the college kid started reading from his &#8220;how much content can you push to your friends&#8221; page, you were left disappointed and perhaps a little bit angry for being duped.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s like playing with matches on the playground:-)</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Brogan...</title>
		<link>http://www.managingthegray.com/2007/05/31/john-edwards-campaign-falls-down-on-my-playground/comment-page-1/#comment-11043</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Brogan...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 16:01:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was reading a great post by &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.web-strategist.com/blog/2007/05/30/questions-you-should-ask-before-taking-that-social-media-or-community-role/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Jeremiah Owyang&lt;/a&gt; about community manager roles, and this resonates with what you&#039;ve come across here. Part of the problem lies in the retooling that has to happen in traditional marketing/PR practices. 

It&#039;s no longer &quot;push push push, call to action.&quot; It&#039;s more like &quot;build relationships, understand the ecosystem, gather like minds, and exchange.&quot; 

In the end, some of the same stuff gets done, and sure, sometimes there&#039;s a problem with immediacy. But really, is raw marketing/PR force really going to continue to get the job done the same way? Is it now? What&#039;s the level of effort versus return? 

They found the right guy to give them a schooling, C.C.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was reading a great post by <a href="http://www.web-strategist.com/blog/2007/05/30/questions-you-should-ask-before-taking-that-social-media-or-community-role/" rel="nofollow">Jeremiah Owyang</a> about community manager roles, and this resonates with what you&#8217;ve come across here. Part of the problem lies in the retooling that has to happen in traditional marketing/PR practices. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s no longer &#8220;push push push, call to action.&#8221; It&#8217;s more like &#8220;build relationships, understand the ecosystem, gather like minds, and exchange.&#8221; </p>
<p>In the end, some of the same stuff gets done, and sure, sometimes there&#8217;s a problem with immediacy. But really, is raw marketing/PR force really going to continue to get the job done the same way? Is it now? What&#8217;s the level of effort versus return? </p>
<p>They found the right guy to give them a schooling, C.C.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Johnson, Jr.</title>
		<link>http://www.managingthegray.com/2007/05/31/john-edwards-campaign-falls-down-on-my-playground/comment-page-1/#comment-11042</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Johnson, Jr.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 15:46:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your post made me wonder what we&#039;re doing to help them realize what we can do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your post made me wonder what we&#8217;re doing to help them realize what we can do.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Haslam</title>
		<link>http://www.managingthegray.com/2007/05/31/john-edwards-campaign-falls-down-on-my-playground/comment-page-1/#comment-11040</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug Haslam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 15:37:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CC, I would hope they do notice-- I think Edwards is the most social media savvy of the bunch. The fact that he/they use Twitter to get in touch with folks like you is a great advance in campaigning. That does not magically transform the fly-by-the-seat nature of fast-moving campaign org&#039;s unfortunately. I hope this turns out ok, whether or not you participate. 

On another note, the topic of social media use by the candidates came up in &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bostonnow.com/news/local/2007/05/30/political_twitter/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;BostonNOW&lt;/a&gt; today-- ok, I know you know that, but the article links to thoughts on the issue from Scott Monty and Steve Garfield (ok, and me too). I am sure you have thoughts on this as well, beyond this most recent experience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CC, I would hope they do notice&#8211; I think Edwards is the most social media savvy of the bunch. The fact that he/they use Twitter to get in touch with folks like you is a great advance in campaigning. That does not magically transform the fly-by-the-seat nature of fast-moving campaign org&#8217;s unfortunately. I hope this turns out ok, whether or not you participate. </p>
<p>On another note, the topic of social media use by the candidates came up in <a href="http://www.bostonnow.com/news/local/2007/05/30/political_twitter/" rel="nofollow">BostonNOW</a> today&#8211; ok, I know you know that, but the article links to thoughts on the issue from Scott Monty and Steve Garfield (ok, and me too). I am sure you have thoughts on this as well, beyond this most recent experience.</p>
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		<title>By: Jersey Todd</title>
		<link>http://www.managingthegray.com/2007/05/31/john-edwards-campaign-falls-down-on-my-playground/comment-page-1/#comment-11039</link>
		<dc:creator>Jersey Todd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 15:32:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Careful, he&#039;s a trial lawyer, and a damn good one....anyone who owns a playground better have insurance for when people fall down in it...

(holy mixed metaphors, batman)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Careful, he&#8217;s a trial lawyer, and a damn good one&#8230;.anyone who owns a playground better have insurance for when people fall down in it&#8230;</p>
<p>(holy mixed metaphors, batman)</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Ebel</title>
		<link>http://www.managingthegray.com/2007/05/31/john-edwards-campaign-falls-down-on-my-playground/comment-page-1/#comment-11038</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew Ebel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 15:32:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They may be the new kid on the block, but they&#039;re learning.  I hope.  Eventually they&#039;ll get the picture, right?  RIGHT?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They may be the new kid on the block, but they&#8217;re learning.  I hope.  Eventually they&#8217;ll get the picture, right?  RIGHT?</p>
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		<title>By: A Call From The Edwards Campaign</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Call From The Edwards Campaign</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 15:29:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I just wrote about it over here. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Christopher S. Penn</title>
		<link>http://www.managingthegray.com/2007/05/31/john-edwards-campaign-falls-down-on-my-playground/comment-page-1/#comment-11036</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher S. Penn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 15:27:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even band street teams do better than that. The real problem for organizations is that they don&#039;t know WHO to talk to because the tools for measuring influence just aren&#039;t there yet. How do you measure reach and engagement? More importantly, how do you map it in an effective way? We have some tools already, especially for the big networks, but they&#039;re still inefficient.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even band street teams do better than that. The real problem for organizations is that they don&#8217;t know WHO to talk to because the tools for measuring influence just aren&#8217;t there yet. How do you measure reach and engagement? More importantly, how do you map it in an effective way? We have some tools already, especially for the big networks, but they&#8217;re still inefficient.</p>
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